[Tcsh] tcsh(1) mandoc conversion completed

Luke Mewburn lukem at netbsd.org
Wed Nov 23 10:41:16 UTC 2022


Thanks Christos & Kimmo. 

I support your decision to only maintain the mdoc version
(current tcsh.man.new) going forward.

I've submitted a pull request - https://github.com/tcsh-org/tcsh/pull/59
This contains the various editorial commits I've made.

I have not made any changes to the build - I'll leave that to either of
you to decide your preference for file (re)naming & deprecation, etc.

I do have some future edits I'm considering, but they can wait until
these changes are in.


cheers,
Luke.



On 22-11-22 07:18, Christos Zoulas wrote:
  | Wonderful work Luke! Thanks so much for completing it. I agree with
  | Kim, let's go with 3. mdoc is superior to man and there is no point
  | on keeping duplicate info around.
  | 
  | Best,
  | 
  | christos
  | 
  | > On Nov 22, 2022, at 3:37 AM, Kimmo Suominen <kim at netbsd.org> wrote:
  | > 
  | > Hi Luke,
  | > 
  | > Thanks a lot! I would go with #3:
  | > 
  | > - I'm not keen on maintaining two copies of the manual page (overhead!).
  | > - Modern systems all support mdoc and it is way nicer.
  | > - While tcsh.man2html is cool, I don't think it gets much use.
  | > - It should be easy enough to produce HTML from mdoc (not that it is
  | > interactive).
  | > 
  | > Cheers,
  | > + Kimmo
  | > 
  | > 
  | >> On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 09:57, Luke Mewburn <luke at mewburn.net> wrote:
  | >> 
  | >> Hi tcsh list,
  | >> 
  | >> I've completed the mdoc conversion of tcsh.man.new (that Christos
  | >> started a few years ago).
  | >> tcsh.man.new formats nicely as text (ascii or UTF-8) as well as PS/PDF.
  | >> I haven't tried HTML yet.
  | >> 
  | >> I also fixed various editorial issues in tcsh.man (the currently
  | >> installed manual in man.old format).
  | >> 
  | >> The changes are in a branch in my github fork
  | >>        https://github.com/lukem/tcsh/tree/lukem/man-fixes
  | >> 
  | >> The differences between tcsh.man and tcsh.man.new are mostly
  | >> minor editorial and formatting issues, especially where
  | >> the mdoc format is nicer. I did convert to Oxford comma
  | >> in tcsh.man.new and didn't backport that to tcsh.man.
  | >> 
  | >> I compared the differences with:
  | >>        nroff -Tascii -c -man tcsh.man | col -b > ! out.old ;
  | >>        nroff -Tascii -c -man tcsh.man.new | col -b > ! out.new ;
  | >>        git diff --no-index --color-words out.old out.new
  | >> 
  | >> 
  | >> Before I submit a pull request, a question to Christos, Kimmo
  | >> and the community:
  | >> 
  | >> Should we continue to maintain and install both tcsh.man and tcsh.man.new ?
  | >> 
  | >>        1. Maintain both tcsh.man and tcsh.man.new, continue to only install
  | >>        tcsh.man by default, maintaining tcsh.man2html for the man.old.
  | >> 
  | >>        2. Maintain both tcsh.man and tcsh.man.new, change to only install
  | >>        tcsh.man.new, maintaining tcsh.man2html for the man.old.
  | >>        Maybe rename tcsh.man to tcsh.man.old ?
  | >>        Maybe rename tcsh.man.new to tcsh.man or tcsh.mandoc ?
  | >> 
  | >>        3. Migrate to tcsh.man.new, deprecate tcsh.man and tcsh.man2html.
  | >>        Rename tcsh.man.new to tcsh.man.
  | >> 
  | >> 
  | >> I have some other editorial improvements and refactoring I'd like to
  | >> do, but I'd rather wait until there's a direction for the manual page
  | >> first.
  | >> 
  | >> 
  | >> regards,
  | >> Luke.
  | >> 
  | >> 
  | >> PS: I realised it's been nearly 30 years since my first contribution to tcsh!
  | >> Time flies.
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