[Tcsh] tcsh and Alpine Linux: progress, anyone?

Kimmo Suominen kim at netbsd.org
Wed Nov 30 14:55:47 UTC 2022


PR#60 is the one for the diff style. It said it might help w/ the
issue discussed here, so I was hoping someone would test it and
confirm in the PR. I don't have Alpine or an environment where diff
comes from busybox.

https://github.com/tcsh-org/tcsh/pull/60

Looking forward to more PRs to merge. :)

Cheers,
+ Kimmo


On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 13:20, Luke Mewburn <luke at mewburn.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Kimmo.
>
>
> There's an another pull request with a change to the testsuite
> to adapt to the busybox implementation of diff,
> that's also related to this Alpine Linux thread.
>
>
> I'll send through another pull request in the next couple of days with
> various miscellaneous cleanups, including:
>
> - A tweak to this pull request to use !defined(HAVE_WORKING_SBRK)
>   instead of !HAVE_WORKING_SBRK, because tcsh uses the former pattern
>   and I should have been consistent (plus it turns out that gcc -Wundef
>   can complain about the latter, and the autoconf manual uses both
>   idioms but leans to the former).  I
>
> - More man page improvements.
>
>
>
> cheers,
> Luke.
>
> On 22-11-30 10:44, Kimmo Suominen wrote:
>   | Thanks, Luke!
>   |
>   | I've merged your pull request, and committed the changed files from
>   | running autoreconf.
>   |
>   | Cheers,
>   | + Kimmo
>   |
>   | On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 09:32, Luke Mewburn <luke at mewburn.net> wrote:
>   | >
>   | > Hi folks,
>   | >
>   | > I've enhanced configure to search for a working sbrk(N) (HAVE_WORKING_SBRK)
>   | > based on Vlad's analysis, and changed config_f.h to force SYSMALLOC
>   | > unless HAVE_WORKING_SBRK.
>   | >
>   | > The pull request is: https://github.com/tcsh-org/tcsh/pull/61
>   | >
>   | > I also did some configure style cleanups first.
>   | >
>   | >
>   | > Note that I have NOT committed the output of autoreconf, because
>   | > I have different/older autoconf / gettext versions that the last
>   | > system that regenerated, and I wanted to avoid the diff skew.
>   | >
>   | >
>   | > cheers,
>   | > Luke.
>   | >
>   | >
>   | > On 22-11-28 14:15, Vlad Meşco wrote:
>   | >   | On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 at 12:47, Vlad Meșco <vlad.mesco at gmail.com> wrote:
>   | >   | >
>   | >   | > Le 28 novembre 2022 11:33:15 GMT+02:00, Luke Mewburn <luke at mewburn.net> a écrit :
>   | >   | > >On 22-11-26 23:41, Vlad Meșco wrote:
>   | >   | > >  | Le 26 novembre 2022 21:21:01 GMT+02:00, Christos Zoulas <christos at zoulas.com> a écrit :
>   | >   | > >  | >Alpine uses must c which is "opinionated" about things like
>   | >   | > >  | >defining a CPP symbol to differentiate itself because it claims one
>   | >   | > >  | >should not be needed because it provides a standards compliant
>   | >   | > >  | >implementation and such checks should be unnecessary:
>   | >   | > >  | >https://wiki.musl-libc.org/faq.html
>   | >   | > >  | >At the same time it uses a malloc implementation that causes
>   | >   | > >  | >problems for programs which try to use a custom allocator (replace musl's
>   | >   | > >  | >allocator):
>   | >   | > >  | >https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/testing-alternative-c-memory-allocators-pt-2-musl-mystery-gomes/
>   | >   | > >  | >https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/issues/12913
>   | >   | > >  | >
>   | >   | > >  |
>   | >   | > >  | My $0.02: Having to occasionally support cross platform builds
>   | >   | > >  | across a whole bunch of platforms at work, I wouldn't rely on GLIBC
>   | >   | > >  | not being defined meaning it's musl's/Alpine's  behaviour in 2022.
>   | >   | > >  | There's bionic, uclib, and probably someone out there is working on
>   | >   | > >  | a 15th standard C library, and there will be a distro using it. And
>   | >   | > >  | somewhere there will be an issue. It would be a neverending problem.
>   | >   | > >  |
>   | >   | > >  |  [...]
>   | >   | > >  |
>   | >   | > >  | You mention musl has issues with someone trying to replace the
>   | >   | > >  | allocator, surely that can be tested for? Now this is me being
>   | >   | > >  | ignorant to how autoconf works: is one able to add a custom check,
>   | >   | > >  | if such a check can be written? Then this could add a define to the
>   | >   | > >  | pile to force SYSMALLOC on in config_f.h (wishful thinking). I mean,
>   | >   | > >  | this is less of a preference and more of a necessity.
>   | >   | > >
>   | >   | > >Hi Vlad,
>   | >   | > >
>   | >   | > >If you can provide a minimal test program that we can run
>   | >   | > >to determine if the problem exists on Alpine / musl /... ,
>   | >   | > >versus not failing on more common platforms, I'm happy to work
>   | >   | > >with you to turn that into an autoconf check (since I have a
>   | >   | > >lot of experience with doing that).
>   | >   | > >
>   | >   | > >regards,
>   | >   | > >Luke.
>   | >   | >
>   | >   | > Cool!
>   | >   | >
>   | >   | > I'll go find some time.
>   | >   | >
>   | >   | > Vlad
>   | >   |
>   | >   | Hello,
>   | >   |
>   | >   | It turns out musl just doesn't make the sbrk syscall if you give
>   | >   | the library function anything other than 0 [1]. It's still true on their
>   | >   | HEAD.  I started off doing what tc.alloc.c/morecore() was doing:
>   | >   |
>   | >   |     #include <unistd.h>
>   | >   |
>   | >   |     int main(int argc, char* argv[])
>   | >   |     {
>   | >   |         void* p = sbrk(0);
>   | >   |         if(p == (void*)-1) return 1;
>   | >   |         if((long)p & 0x3ff) {
>   | >   |             p = sbrk((int) (1024 - ((long)p & 0x3ff)));
>   | >   |             if(p == (void*)-1) return 2;
>   | >   |         }
>   | >   |         p = sbrk(2048);
>   | >   |         if(p == (void*)-1) return 3;
>   | >   |         return 0;
>   | >   |     }
>   | >   |
>   | >   | But that can be reduced to "one" line:
>   | >   |
>   | >   |     #include <unistd.h>
>   | >   |
>   | >   |     int main(int argc, char* arvv[])
>   | >   |     {
>   | >   |         return sbrk(2048) == (void*)-1;
>   | >   |     }
>   | >   |
>   | >   | I've only tested on some older Alpine in WSL2 and a CentOS 7
>   | >   | machine (for sanity). This checks if sbrk() can increase; if sbrk()
>   | >   | is "read-only", then the custom allocator will not work, so tcsh
>   | >   | may as well use the system/libc malloc.
>   | >   |
>   | >   | [1] http://git.musl-libc.org/cgit/musl/commit/src/linux/sbrk.c?id=7a995fe706e519a4f55399776ef0df9596101f93
>   | >   |
>   | >   | Best regards,
>   | >   | Vlad
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